Posts by Doubtfully Yours

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Woman I work with just asked me, "if you fall in love and get married, do you have to marry a JW?"

by miseryloveselders in

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you wanna talk about a section in the office floor becoming as quiet as a vacant building in the middle of nowhere.

so she put her hand on her chin and said in more words or less, "if you fall in love, and get married, do you have to marry a jw?

i couldn't imagine people looking at me poorly because i didn't marry a jw!

Doubtfully Yours

I was asked a similar question by co-workers a long time ago, although I was already married. I told them that marriage is very challenging and one must look for someone with the most interests in common. Since we JWs are so different from mainstream society in our beliefs and practices, it would make it for a much happier union if we married another JW. However, people that aren't so serious about the religion do marry outsiders, then of course they start to complaint about their partner or situation as it makes for a tense relationship most often than if one married another JW.

You know, that goes for just about any faith a person is serious about; serious Jewish do not marry outside of their faith, serious catholics should also marry other serious catholics. Nothing new really.

As Dr. Laura says, and she's so very right about this, "love is not enough".

DY

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Please post all the little things that make no sense about the JWs

by Aussie Oz in

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i want to collect a bunch of things that i can use to help my son see that the wbts and being a jw makes no sense.. i have a few in mind already.

they have to be things that might matter to a teenager, so doctrine will probably be out!.

(if you have read my last post you will see why).

Doubtfully Yours

I'd like to call it "things I don't enjoy", because you know that nothing is 100% to one's liking anywhere:

Service time reporting - Forces so many to lie in order to keep up appearances.
Allowing minors to get baptized - Can't drive? Can't consume alcohol? Can't get married, all due to age and level of maturity? Then, can't make such an important decision as serving God for the rest of your life. I cringe inside and the displeasure shows in my face whenever I hear/see these youngsters getting baptized at the assemblies. Just kills me because you know 95% of them all will be disfellowshipped.
COs/DOs not working secularly at all; I'd love to see them work at least 15-to-20 hrs weekly somewhere so that they put their $$$ where their mouth are in terms of dealing with this non-believing world, plus, of course, to have them cover some of their own expenses. As time goes on and things get tighter, I'm sure the Org will have to take away some of their many perks and this may force some to reconsider working a bit. This has been a huge pet peeve of mine for a long, long time!

Alright.

DY

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Here in the UK - a £3 fee charged for going to JW assembly hall

by James_Slash in

i cannot speak for other countries, but it has become evident of late that more and more talks are being done by presiding overseers at kh's (especially in the west midlands) and they are making it quite clear that they are expecting 3 from every publisher (per day) who visit the dudley assembly hall, west midlands to contribute towards the upkeep of it.. the quote from the po's who have done this talk have said that "it is expected that each publisher will put 3 into the box on each day".. what do you think of that then?

as the world hits an economic breakdown the jw's seem to maximising their income from struggling families.. dudley assembly hall holds about 600-700 people.

i'm sure people are capable of doing the maths.. so much for voluntary contributions !!

Doubtfully Yours

Structures and appliances within need maintenance, repair, remodel, replacement, supplies, etc. We went over this before in another thread some days ago. The contribution is quite modest, really.

Definitely what publishers get out of the assemblies in information, spiritual comforting, Biblical knowledge and comradery with fellow JWs is plenty and priceless. There'll be the ones that will contribute much more than that in order to cover whatever the cost.

Hey, if you think it's so stiff a contribution, how about joining the many religions that not "suggest" but "demand" an amount monthly? How about 10% of a person's earnings? A lady I work with tells me the pastor sees their monthly paychecks and determines how much a person has to give. She's changed churches 5 times since I've known her over money conflicts.

Stop the whining already!

DY

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Quick Question, I looked up the Spanish-English Dictionary, it is not there

by asilentone in

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what is the english word for the spanish word "proposit"?

thank you!

thats all.

Doubtfully Yours

Spanish: Proposito

English: Purpose

DY

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I destroyed @30 jw's today in field service

by JunkYardDog in

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2 wt zombies came to my door today.

and i opened a can of woop a$$ on them.. i did the whole history of wt false prophecies on them and asked them to show me the gospel of 1914?

they couldn't and i followed them up and down the street proclaiming they were false teachers and couldn't talk their way out of a paper bag with a knowledgeable apostate.

Doubtfully Yours

You sound like quite the deranged nut job, JYD. Any sensible JW, or any educated person for that matter would've left you yelling and kept on going, moving on to more receptive individuals. The days of wasting precious time with people like you are long gone.

Gather your strength, though, for we'll keep on preaching; it's our job until Jehovah says "enough". Hopefully, some day you'll be in a reasonable frame of mind so to establish a real conversation based on actual facts, and not the loud monologue you're used to.

You think it upsets us, JYD, but in reality is quite funny to encounter crazies such as yourself in the field service.

I'm sure you have much time in your hands nowadays that you're not busy preaching as Jesus commanded his followers, so please check out this article I found most helpful: http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000622/article_01.htm

Be well, and calm down for your own health.

DY

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Challenges Facing the Watchtower Org

by eric356 in

ive been thinking about the future of the watchtower organization and the challenges it faces in coming decades.

its difficult to address the issue without allowing personal feelings affect the analysis.

many people seem to think that the society will collapse fairly soon, based mostly on the fact that the person dislikes the leadership or cant understand how others can believe the doctrine.

Doubtfully Yours

The Society has evolved tremendously and will continue on keeping up with the times and the needs of its people. Its survival and continuous growth is evidence of Jehovah's approval, direction and protection.

Following Jehovah's word, the Bible, all challenges will be met successfully.

DY

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Eliminating all traces of exJWs

by Scully in

does anyone know if it is common practice for jws to take down or remove photos of dfd or dad family members within their homes?.

if so, is there any basis for this practice within wt literaturetm?

or is it simply a matter of "going beyond the things written" in order to hurt and disrespect the target, and extended family members who have close ties to the target?.

Doubtfully Yours

Scully,

To answer your initial question, it is a personal choice; some radicals do, some logicals, more sensibles don't.

There are apostates within my extended family circle and we still keep their pictures, gifts, whatever as before. We even exchange visits, calls, etc., not necessarily as tightly as before because there isn't so much in common anymore, but we still keep in touch and respect each other's choices.

DY

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Science Working to Create Workable, Safe Blood Substitutes

by AMNESIANO in

scientists are working on synthetic replacements for blood.

but many attempts have failed to meet safety standards.

october 25, 2010. in the "true blood" television series, sexy vampires quaff bottles of artificial blood that allow them to live alongside humans in polite society.. .

Doubtfully Yours

The stance JWs and other unsung heros against blood usage in their healthcare has worked wonders in the scientific field because it has pushed for finding alternative treatments. There was a recent article in a medical journal magazine I read while sitting at a hospital's waiting room on how the absence of blood in a person having surgery facilitates their full recovery faster and without the routine complications that blood users endure.

Dr. Laura read in his radio show some months ago a letter from the medical community thanking JWs and others who refused blood for this stance had pushed the medical field further into research that has benefited countless of patients and elevates medical research to the highest levels. It was a most wonderful tribute to JWs and others who stand by their faith of not accepting blood, but still seek the best treatment possible.

DY

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Interested Person kills Bethelite in German Kingdom Hall, later is killed by train

by processor in

on saturday, 35 jehovah's witnesses gathered in their kingdom hall near frankfurt and sat over coffee and cake (for whatever reason, maybe pioneer school or some other event).

suddenly a 20-year-old man (according to most sources "not a jw yet, but wanted to become one"; though one source claims that he would have been an auxiliary pioneer) took a knife from the cake buffet and killed a 45-year-old bethelite (maybe a circuit overseer).. today the murderer was killed by a train - supposedly suicide.. .

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101108-31031.html.

Doubtfully Yours

Youngster sounds mentally unstable ; whatever the reason, I liked the ending: Took somebody's life, lost his own.

I quite enjoy the ending of a life that has taken or severely wronged another life. The "eye for an eye" law is the very best there is.

DY

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Hospital Liason Committee Arseholes

by Hairyhegoat in

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friends

please be aware if you have just faded and were baptised , if you or your family have a major life or death accident the mongols from the hospital liason committe will always be there before you and will still try to take over the care for the family member.

why does this happen, you need to delete the master records of all family members and they are now not jw any more, if you don't they will still be called and you will have a fight on your hands to get them to leave.

contact your doctor / gp or hospital and get this sorted out.

Doubtfully Yours

Thanks to the Hospital Liason Committee the faith of many a JW is protected and their decisions respected.

Thanks, thanks, thanks to the Hospital Liason Committee arrangement. It's a wonderful provision for faithful JWs in these times.

DY